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Post by littlecaty on Apr 6, 2004 15:22:51 GMT
i understand you scorpion it can be hard to expres your self and especialy when you have to do it in another languge than your one.
and i don't think eny bodey took it bad i diddent atleast.
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Post by Webmaster on Apr 6, 2004 15:36:10 GMT
What are our other strict rules, besides the avatar pix?
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Post by Scorpion on Apr 6, 2004 15:49:09 GMT
Sorry I was concentrating so much not to mix up my opinion in the post with what I've heard from others that once I did. I (yes I) only wanted to say that the avatar/sig rule is stricter than in other forums and the people who come from other forums say the RULES are stricter while they usually have problems JUST with THIS, the avatar/sig rule.
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Post by Jac on Apr 6, 2004 17:08:53 GMT
I don't really post on here much, but I don't mind the rules of the board. but on the subject of icons/avatars, I don't see any problem with having what you want in a little pic, that could reflect something about your personality. What I wouldn't like to see however are massive signatures promoting other artistes. That is spamming and also quite tiresome to load and keep having thrust in your face..
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Post by Scorpion on Apr 6, 2004 17:13:13 GMT
the size of the signatures is another question. There are petitions on other boards already against using big siggys so I dont mind not having 800x600 sized siggys here
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Post by sab on Apr 6, 2004 19:53:32 GMT
Good question/topic!
I agree with both 'sides'. On one hand I understand why there are rules about other artists and all that... but on the other hand: we live in a free world and i dont believe ANYONE on this board is ONLY interested in Ritch. It wouldnt be healthy if you are not open to other things/music/artists... So restricting people not to talk about the other things in their lifes personally makes me feel a bit prisoned. And I think its quite boring at times as well... Not that rich is boring but for example: if me and my five-friends (lets call them this way to make my point clear) get together: first the subject is about rich and the others and slowly we start talking about other things to come back to rich and remember even greater memories. So in that way, I think this forum would be more interesting...
As for pics and signatures, its a whole different story really. But if u cant express yourself in words in topics, I can understand they do it in that way. And if u dont allow people to choose for themselves, they will be feeling even more restricted and will hate coming here over the time cause they will be bored by all the topics about the same thing...
I think it would be a good idea to allow 1 topic per artist just like they do on a board like d-side (not that I know much about that cause I never come there but my friends do so....) Make a different thing for that saying: other music/artists. That way if you ever get recordcompagnies and so on to check out this website to see if rich has many fans and what the fans are like, they get a fuller idea of what we really think and stand for...
But thats just my opinion...
x sab
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Post by Scorpion on Apr 6, 2004 20:06:34 GMT
The 1 topic per artist thing is a good idea. I don't know which one of you started it but the nederlanders unite topic was a good idea too! And I'm glad it didnt get deleted because its on another language. I think a topic like that brings together the people who share the same interests/language (besides Ritchie of course).
If we let every artist have just one thread in a separate forum called Other artists for example and you could talk about other bands/artists in just that forum, then people who love just Ritchie would not be disturbed by the spammers in the other forums on the board and the word spamming would lose its meaning as just those people would read the spammer's post who reads the D-side thread for example.
I think a forum is the place to discuss things. The person who brought us together and made us register here was Ritchie, of course, but besides that we share other interests too that we may don't know about because we cannot talk about that.
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Post by WastedAussie on Apr 6, 2004 22:58:36 GMT
im totally sober but im still confused!?
I got the bit about the other artists section tho. that is a really good idea cos people are going to talk about other artists anyway
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Post by Rotae on Apr 7, 2004 1:14:56 GMT
Well, I think that if we didn't have rules on this board it'd become really bad. At our school we had a forum, and it eventually had to be deleted because of all of the stuff that started happening without some of the rules that are on here. Personally, I like the size of the siggies/ avatars. I think that if they were any bigger it'd become distracting. Scorpion is right, the rule should be changed so that having Abs/Sean/J/Scott avatars can be allowed. I don't really want to get into this. I'm now officially out of this topic now Peace, Rotae
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Post by Mrs J.Brown on Apr 7, 2004 3:22:03 GMT
"You can't advertise or promote other musical artists or celebs."
Abs is another artist so that is against the rules right there.
This is Ritchie's board so saying "well if we change the rules for icons/siggies here we have to do them on Abs board too" is just rediculous. Ritchie isn't basing his carreer around Abs so I think his board should be based around Ritchie and NOT Abs as everyone keeps refering too. Why should just because Abs (who is a current artist) if not allowed as a sig or icon should J or anyone else (ex-Five) whom have yet to have solo carreers be not allowed?? Their not artists or celebs. Well J aint. Just cause Abs isn't then none of them should? Pathetic. Abs is an artist so there for he falls under the rules!! As for banning discussions on ex-Five members just because Abs is a solo artist and his icons/siggies are against the rules is silly and taking it too far. Ritchie was a part of Five and I don't see why we can't talk about old Five days just because we can't have Abs icons.
Having someone else in your icon doesn't mean spamming but putting up links and talking about other artists may be. There are rules to say you can't talk about other artists so having someone else in your icon isn't necissarily going to end with the board filling with unwanted posts. Thats what the rules and mods are for, to help keep the board clean and remind people that "hey we don't talk about them here". We have seperate forums here for different discussions on and none of them are for promoting so why should it get out of hand?
Icons and siggies seem to be the one rule that's seriously enforced but what about the other rules that aint being enforced like the icon/siggie one? Like for instance this one about personal text:
The text can't be more than 40 characters long (including spaces).
Webmaster: You think I’m wasted, totally vacant. I just like spacing out sometimes... =74 (if I counted right)
Some have even had Robbie Williams songs in them and some siggies are from other artists/movies. Even now.
This topic started about icons and siggies and yeah I just went off that topic but like I said I'm in 2 minds about the whole icon/siggie thing but I don't wanna be giving up my J icons for no-one. LOL
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Post by Webmaster on Apr 7, 2004 4:44:17 GMT
After talking to several of the people involved in the site today, the general concensus seems to be that we should allow anything except out-right promotion in the little icon/avatar pix but limit siggies to your name and a bit of text that is about YOU only: no quotes, lyrics, or graphics of any kind... including those about Ritchie. We have also debated allowing no signatures at all which would end the problem.
No one involved wants to have topics allowed about other artists. There are 1000's of musicians in the world and since we'd have to allow every artist the same opportunity, there could possibly be 100's of topics if we let this happen.
We've also noticed that there seem to be a couple of people who have appointed themselves sort of unofficial board police and take it upon themselves to inform others of the rules (such as, "your siggie is too big". We've seen this several times), answer questions directed at the real moderators and explain things to everyone else, often incorrectly. Please restrain yourselves & leave these matters to the mods. If you feel someone is doing something wrong, PM a mod so they can handle it.
We're still thinking about all of this and will decide soon on the siggie/icon/avatar question.
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Post by Rotae on Apr 7, 2004 4:51:29 GMT
Please don't take away the signatures.
Peace, Rotae
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Post by Mrs J.Brown on Apr 7, 2004 5:14:38 GMT
Board Police? sheesh!
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Post by Jac on Apr 7, 2004 6:11:16 GMT
Well I think it's good to have a discussion about it.
Just wanted to add something. I don't think their is anythhing wrong in mentioning other artistes, but having seperate topics about them is a bit pointless. If I want to post about another artiste in depth I do it on their message board, with like-minded fans.
I don't think the board rules here are excessive. I can't stand board where you have to scroll down half a page to read a post cos the persons siggy is massive. Especially if the person posts a lot, you really get sick of their signature quickly.
I post on another board, where the rules regarding sigs are not as strict, but you aren't allowed to discuss any aspect of the bands personal lives to the extreme that if a band member mentions something personal in a magazine article, and someone posts the article the remarks about their personal lives are edited out. I'm sure you would all hate that rule on this board!
I do agree though that there are a couple of wannabe mods on here! By pointing out to ppl that they are breaking the rules rather than informing a mod makes me think they are trying to prove something. Ah well.
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Post by Mrs J.Brown on Apr 7, 2004 7:54:15 GMT
Well I think if mods are going to tell us off for doing wrong by the rules (which is their job) they should at least be able to follow them themselves. I presume you and the Webmaster are talking about me (for one) but the only people I have said "hey that's wrong" to have been the post above mentioning the Webamsters personal text and when Leeny mention icon sizes and hers were larger. Okay so maybe I should have PM'd the Webmaster but I was pointing out that the icons and siggies were the one rule that were mostly enforced when the more obvious rules were being broken. Yes icons and siggies seem to be a big topic constantly but I'm not sure why it's become such a big thing again when things were going fine in the first place. I detest large siggies as most people do. I love the fact this board is clean and looking good. Personally I like the board the way it is. This board as it is, is friendly and people are getting on just fine.
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