†.Va¢hE.†
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...I'm not happy with this...
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Post by †.Va¢hE.† on Nov 14, 2005 20:39:17 GMT
Hi everyone!!!!!!!! ;D did you hear wasted (full song)? I did it...........and Just loved it!!!!!! I can't stop to hear it, I love it what do you think about the song? *sorry my english (I'm new here and I'm from Chile ...so I know english just a little!!!!) BYE! and Peace out ; Rock out Ritchie Rocks...today ... tomorrow and always!!!!
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Caitlin
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So if he's given half the chance - will he sink or swim?
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Post by Caitlin on Nov 15, 2005 8:34:28 GMT
hey Vache!
i heard it and i absolutely loved it too! i saw a copy on xxxxx website and i just downloaded it!
i thought there would be a copy of it on this website...i wonder how she got a copy?...
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Post by capricorniangal on Nov 15, 2005 9:18:25 GMT
Welcome to the forum... wasted was on here a while ago along with some others. Check out the webmaster goodies I think you will find it in there.
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Post by retro399 on Nov 15, 2005 10:11:37 GMT
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Post by Webmaster on Nov 15, 2005 17:28:49 GMT
It has never been available for download. Ever. Since Ritchie hasn't released it, making it available for download is totally wrong and could hurt him professionally. Some people use ripping software to record non-downloadable songs, convert them into mp3s and use them for non-personal reasons. It is a non-ethical practice.
We know about this and that is why other unreleased songs will not be available on this site in their full versions ever again. You can thank whoever decided to rip and use Wasted without permission.
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†.Va¢hE.†
excellent fan
...I'm not happy with this...
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Post by †.Va¢hE.† on Nov 15, 2005 18:10:14 GMT
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Post by Miecs on Nov 15, 2005 18:53:29 GMT
Hey Vache! Welcome here.. and I think u didnt do anything wrong... its very nice that u liked it.. i love it too, but someone told that have a copy of that song.. and thats not allowed yet...
Lets rock! Mie
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Cylise
new fan
Goody2Shoes
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Post by Cylise on Nov 16, 2005 0:06:58 GMT
It has never been available for download. Ever. Since Ritchie hasn't released it, making it available for download is totally wrong and could hurt him professionally. Some people use ripping software to record non-downloadable songs, convert them into mp3s and use them for non-personal reasons. It is a non-ethical practice. We know about this and that is why other unreleased songs will not be available on this site in their full versions ever again. You can thank whoever decided to rip and use Wasted without permission. Oh please.....how come theres like 8 Ritchie songs on here, but they are all half versions? I know when Abs released stuff...we got full versions "Where I Wanna Be", "Ride" and so forth....I 'mean surely Ritchie doesnt go in the studio and record 30 second clips.... for 1 no-one can use streaming prgrams to get a song that has never been put online as a full version and someone must have had the full version in order for it to get outmeaning SOMEONE has the full versions and isnt sharing...... also how is there a full version when WE have only heard the 30 clip? I don't see why we cant all hear it, its not like hes going to ever release an album anyways...its been almost 2 years! Anywho.....just asking, cos maybe someone is upset because they didnt get to put it up first? cos I'd hate to think that SOME people got special privleages than others, in hearing Ritchies, Seans and Abs songs that we dont. Besides...I'm guessing there wouldnt be a problem, if someone had an unheard song that NO ONE, not even the WM has heard....people would be scrambling to download it, like its no tommorrow
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Post by capricorniangal on Nov 16, 2005 8:48:54 GMT
It is strictly illegal to d/l songs and it means the artist does not get the credit for it. Hence you wont find any more complete songs on official web sites. Its a shame but I fully support Ritchie in not doing it any more.
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Post by Webmaster on Nov 16, 2005 13:39:47 GMT
We actually had Wasted up on this site as a full listen-only download for a short while. As soon as it was apparent some people were ripping it and using it on the web, we took it off and removed mention of it.
As far as what Abs does with his unreleased songs, that is his business. And what Ritchie does is his. Since Abs has only posted songs that he has no intention of ever releasing or making money from, he gave his permission for fans to hear them.
As far as "some people" hearing the full versions of songs when fans never get the chance, yep it happens all the time. Abs & Ritchie have friends and relations who have heard many many songs that fans may never get to hear. What they don't have are unscrupulous friends and relations who would share them in places (like the internet) where they could be stolen or used by others without permission or compensation.
I have to ask carefully to get permission to even use clips and then we have to talk about the impact each one may have on the future. There are also royalty and copyright issues. Most songs are not written by one person. Even if Ritchie writes a song by himself, by the time it gets recorded, it may have another person or person's name attached as writers for imput they add during the process. Then if you want to use a clip, you need everyone's legal permission. It ain't easy.
So if you see a music file in RealPlayer or WMP or QT or Flash and you can only listen to it, not right click and download it, it is because they don't want it downloaded and spread all over for free. It was done as a courtesy so their fans could at least hear the songs if not own them. A courtesy that a few fans are abusing.
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Post by retro399 on Nov 16, 2005 16:49:44 GMT
ok.....
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Post by Miecs on Nov 16, 2005 17:55:26 GMT
ok
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Mrs J.Brown
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Post by Mrs J.Brown on Nov 16, 2005 22:07:05 GMT
I didn't want to get into this but I don't like being called "unscrupulous" or "un-ethical". I am a fan and as such I wanna hear and share whatever I can of any of the guys. Putting them up for download isn't hurting anyone financially and if they are released no doubt Ritchie fans who have been waiting will go buy the single or album. Heck they've been waiting forever for something, anything from Ritchie. Ritchie himself said on this board when he answered fans questions that he would and has download mp3s before. If Ritchie has no problem with downlaoding mp3's and does it himself and you still feel strongly against it just dont download it! Also I think when Ritchie finally does get a contract some of his songs will be quite outdated and most probably will have to record/write new material for an album.
I understand what Cylise says about some people hearing these songs when other fans can't and she's not talking about families and friends. Personally I don't remember a full version of Wasted being on here. I must have missed it.
Edit: Removed details of who/where the songs came from.
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Cylise
new fan
Goody2Shoes
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Post by Cylise on Nov 17, 2005 0:40:06 GMT
We actually had Wasted up on this site as a full listen-only download for a short while. As soon as it was apparent some people were ripping it and using it on the web, we took it off and removed mention of it. As far as what Abs does with his unreleased songs, that is his business. And what Ritchie does is his. Since Abs has only posted songs that he has no intention of ever releasing or making money from, he gave his permission for fans to hear them. As far as "some people" hearing the full versions of songs when fans never get the chance, yep it happens all the time. Abs & Ritchie have friends and relations who have heard many many songs that fans may never get to hear. What they don't have are unscrupulous friends and relations who would share them in places (like the internet) where they could be stolen or used by others without permission or compensation. I have to ask carefully to get permission to even use clips and then we have to talk about the impact each one may have on the future. There are also royalty and copyright issues. Most songs are not written by one person. Even if Ritchie writes a song by himself, by the time it gets recorded, it may have another person or person's name attached as writers for imput they add during the process. Then if you want to use a clip, you need everyone's legal permission. It ain't easy. So if you see a music file in RealPlayer or WMP or QT or Flash and you can only listen to it, not right click and download it, it is because they don't want it downloaded and spread all over for free. It was done as a courtesy so their fans could at least hear the songs if not own them. A courtesy that a few fans are abusing. So that just makes Ritchie a hypocrate then huh? Nice to know who we support. Someone who downloads mp3s but wont allow it on his site....how lovely. Although I'd like to know what HE thought instead of what YOU think. Seeing as it is his board. And when i was talking a bout someone having it and not sharing, i dont mean the causal between friends and family.....have you ever heard the phrase "look a little closer to home?" Perhaps those people who "think" they're friends shouldn't be sharing their mp3's with "their" friends and it wouldn't have got out
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